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First off Bud's was great to deal with! I was somewhat confused because the gun didn't come with Heinie sights, they were Novaks. Also the grip was not the "Ribber" grip Taurus was making such a big fuss about. But hey, that's great, I like the Novaks better anyway and didn't give a rip about the grip. The bad part is the gun was broken and had to be sent back to Taurus. Yup! Right out of the box. I read the manual and then did the breakdown... which was easy as anything, and the firing pin guide was in 3 pieces with one of the pieces stuck in and broken off flush with the breech, and a mangled firing pin return spring fell out on the bench. That was August 13th. Taurus has it and is telling me to check back the end of September. Oh well, I hope I get to shoot it before winter!