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I have a H&R 20 ga slug gun that I tried Hornady SST slugs in for a while. I could not get them to group at 50 yds. I then tried these Federals sabots and I got to tell you that these slugs are hard hitting and accurate. I group 4 shots at 50 yards that a fifty cent peace could cover, have not tried them at 100 yards yet. I have already taken a couple of deer with them and the exit wound that is left is amazing, if the deer doesn't fall in his tracks you will not have any trouble finding a blood trail.