These 90gr jhp penatrated deeper than I thought and expanded great just as much as xtp just a bit less than gold dots but more penatration. Buds was perfect as normal, great low price and had my order here in 2 days from purchase which is why I buy all my practice ammo and almost all of my defense ammo, if they started carrying underwood ammo I wouldn't go anywhere else. Thanks buds, Forrest
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