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Hi Fred, I have the Rock Island VR80 and can attest to the fact that it is is very well made and a blast to shoot. budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/108599/rock+island+armory+vr80+tactical+right+hand+black+12+gauge+shotgun , This and other AR platform shotguns will accept higher capacity AR12 or MKA 1919 style magazines. . 5rd mag here budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/152734/sds+imports+80048004+turkish+5rd+12+gauge+compatible+w+tar+12p+black+steel , . 10rd budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/127318/sds+imports+t10rdm+replacement+magazine+12+gauge+sds+imports+10rd+black+detachable , . 15rd drum budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/714025798/promag+mka+1919+12ga+2.75+15rd+drum , . 20rd drum budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/111608/promag+mkaa1+akdal+12+gauge+mka+1919+2.75+20rd+black+drum , . 30rd drum here budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/411561310/black+river+12+gauge+30+round+rd+drum+magazine+1919+shotgun+black , . 19rd ma

Hi Fred and welcome. There are several AR-12 Manufacturers with excellent reliable platforms. Rock Island, GeForce, Panzer and Legacy Sports to name a few. I have an Rock Island VR-80 and a GeForce and have been more than satisfied with them. https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/108599/rock+island+armory+black+anodized+12+ga+20+3+5+1+fixed+thumbhole+stock ----------------------------------------- https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/720003137/panzer+ar12+pro+12ga+tactical+grey ---------------------------------- https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/155445/citadel+boss+12+ga+20+flat+dark+earth ----------- Cheers, stay safe and enjoy!

Many AR-style 12 gauge shotguns in this category (including those from Panzer Arms, Rock Island Armory's VR series, Charles Daly, and others) are often Turkish-made and generally have lower price points. Reliability: These models have historically had a reputation for being unreliable, particularly with low-brass or light-powered loads, and may require a break-in period. However, some users report newer generations (e.g., Gen 3 Panzer Arms AR-12s) run well with proper maintenance. Quality: The overall quality is generally considered mediocre compared to high-end American-made options. Users often recommend having spare parts on hand. Value: They are praised for offering AR-style ergonomics and magazine feeding at an affordable price point, making them popular for recreational use or as a budget-friendly option. Examples: Popular models include the Rock Island VR80 and the Panzer Arms AR-12.

Good evening to you!! User opinions on AR-platform 12 gauge shotguns vary significantly, with high-end options like the Genesis Arms Gen-12 considered reliable and innovative, while many budget-friendly options, often Turkish-made (e.g., older Panzer Arms models), have a reputation for reliability issues, particularly with lighter loads. Top Manufacturer Opinions Genesis Arms (Gen-12): Widely regarded as one of the best and most reliable AR-style 12 gauge shotguns on the market. A key feature is its compatibility with standard AR-10 lowers using a specific Genesis Arms upper, creating a relatively slim and lightweight package. The primary drawback is its high price point (MSRP around $2,889) and that it is frequently out of stock. Rock Island Armory (VR80): This model is a popular "best AR-style shotgun" pick in the mid-price range and is praised for its AR-style ergonomics and controls, as well as an M-LOK rail for accessories. It is generally considered a good value but may require

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