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Jason, they are slightly longer than 17 round flush fit magazines but not by much. It's a bit hard to see but there is a small nub towards the bottom of the magazine in this picture that helps prevent over insertion and everything below that point sticks out of the bottom: https://www.mec-gar.com/var/sito/storage/images/magazines/ruger/ruger-p85-89-93-94-95-pc94/mgrp8520b/9444-6-eng-US/MGRP8520B-productsFull.png