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any standard 38 special ammo will be fine for practice I use the federal 100 round packs from Walmart and the federal hydroshok rounds for defense https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/32112/federal+p38hst1s+personal+defense+hst+micro+38+special+%2bp+130gr+hst+jhp+20+bx%2f