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Garry, no Sir. I haven't loaded any shells in a long time. When I last did I used Federal 209's. I needed primers. When I looked in the catalog I only saw 209a's. I ordered a box. When it arrived it said right on the box DO NOT USE IN PLACE OF 209'S.The 209a is a hotter primer than the 209..you must use the load data for the right primer application, The 209a will develop more pressure in place of the 209.