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James, since this was discontinued in 2019 (https://danwessonfirearms.com/product/pointman-38-pm-38/), I would check on large gun and accessory sites like (6)un (8)roker, Armslist and Guns America as discontinued and hard to find firearms and accessories show up for sale by private individuals and small shops. Just replace (6) & (8) with G & B.