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Hi John and welcome. The one of the best self-defense loads that Buds currently sells is the Underwood : https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/713098743/underwood+45+colt+250gr --------------- And that same bullet amped up to 1400fps is a great hunting woods load : https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/713098744/underwood+45+colt+p+250gr - Cheers and stay safe!