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Hi Mark and welcome. Minimum of 200gr with conventional Bullets. I highly recommend two Underwood loads: https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/34290/doubletap+ammunition+10mm200hc+hunter+10mm+auto+200+gr+hard+cast+solid+hcsld+20+bx+25+cs ------------------------------- and ---------------------------------- Extreme Penetrator: https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/713086946/underwood+ammo+10mm+140gr. ------------- Details of the Extreme Penetrator performance here(Watch entire video) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDvzul3rvTk&t=2s