Heckler & Koch H&K HK416 .22 LR 8.50" 20+1 Black Black Polymer Grip

A: This appears to be the new pistol HK produced in partnership with Umarex.

A: Craig, yep, this be the one my man.

A: Yes it is the NEW model

A: Dave, The model UPC 723364201110 at CDNN has a 9" barrel BUDs has same model out of stock with 9" barrel even though description says 8.5" barrel model #5780303. H&K Rimfire 5780303 416 Pistol 22LR 8.5" 20rd Polymer Grips Model: 5780303 . This firearm is UPC 642230257894 model#81000403. The model 5780303 at BUDs and CDNN is same model, but has faux suppressor instead of barrel device/flash hider. So diff is 0n this firearm flash hider muzzle device 8.5" barrel. Other one faux suppressor 9" barrel.

A: barrel length and fake suppressor

A: Michael - They are the same basic gun, of course. Most of the difference is cosmetics - They are more than likely just a different year's model. And, also, Buds uses stock photos, some of which are dated, and may not show exact details of every model. but basically, one is getting the same gun. If you're interested, contact Buds and see if they will do a price match for you.

A: Yes this is the newest Gen 2 model Get the look and feel of the legendary HK416 used by the world's most elite fighting forces in a semi-automatic .22 LR pistol. HK partnered with Umarex of Germany to bring you the best, most realistic HK rimfire available. Whether you use it as sub-caliber trainer, for hunting or competition, make sure you get the only HK416 .22 LR pistol authorized by HK. HK416 .22 LR PISTOL FEATURES • Aluminum receivers • RIS–Rail Interface System M-LOK® / Mil STD. 1913 • Pistol grip with storage compartment • Adjustable flip up sights • 90° manual safety • Functional dust cover • Last round bolt hold open • Threaded muzzle 1/2 x 28 • Compatible with most AR-style arm braces

A: Dave - yes this is the new H&K produced 416 pistol.

A: Dave, yes Sir. This UPC code is the new Gen2 Pistol.

A: Since we're talking 22LR ... I don't imagine you would ever wear out either one. Just not enough heat/pressure/bullet speed.

A: Dave, the actual Barrel diameters are the same, even on the Shrouded model. Most likely a weight saving deal. They are on the thin side compared to other similar 22LR Pistols but they should hold up just fine. 22LR is a forgiving round.

A: they are the same diameter and I hope you live long enough and shoot enough to "wear' out the barrel If you do you will have had a long enjoyable life

A: Yes, Dave you will have created a SBR, for which a tax stamp is required. Only a 'brace' an be added, and maintain the 'pistol' designation.

A: Dave, yes Sir it will.

A: Esp, it is not currently CA compliant. I doubt that Buds will alter the package to be compliant. You can ask Buds directly just in case at 1-859-368-0371 9am-9pm EST Mon-Fri. or use the Blue Chat now button at the bottom right corner 9am to 9pm Mon-Sat and 11am - 7pm Sun (7 days a week).

A: no it is not CA legal and can not be made CA legal before shipment it would have to be on the CA DOJ Approved list (tested and certified by the CA DOJ) https://www.oag.ca.gov/firearms/certguns

A: ESP - there are currently NO HK .22LR pistols on the CA approved handgun roster. None. So making this legal isn't really feasible. Sorry.

A: LOL. No! I live in California and if I knew this was legal I would have bought some.

A: The only way this would be legal is if you turned it into a rifle. That would mean putting a 16 inch barrel on it as well as a stock. You're better off looking for a rifle if this is what you want. Handgun selection is limited in California.