Mossberg 590 Shockwave Raptor Grip .410 Blue/Black Shotgun

A: Larry, this has a 5+1 2.5" 410 Shell capacity.

A: It is a 3 inch chamber and capacity is 5+1 of 3 inch .410 shells Mossberg site 590 Shockwave – .410 Bore #50649 SPECIFICATIONS Capacity 6 Chamber 3" Barrel Type Heavy-Walled Barrel Length 14" Sight Bead Choke Cylinder-Bore Barrel Finish Matte Blued Stock Finish Raptor Grip / Corn Cob Forend w/ Strap Weight 4.24 Length 26.37" UPC 015813506496 Link to Mossberg spec sheet https://www.mossberg.com/product/590-shockwave-410-bore/

A: I guess you could ask an attorney.

A: Did you try your local/county prosecuting attorney? Police./law enforcement is, unfortunately, not a great source for finding out technicalities of the laws. I'd recommend trying the prosecutor's office. Good luck. It's a real maze sometimes.

A: Cynthia, this is very surprising and utterly ridiculous to tell you the truth. I am in NC and your SC Laws practically mirrors NC's. I carry legally and keep an AR Pistol in my vehicle and a Pistol on my person at all times. My Sheriff was able to answer this similar question many years back, so I don't understand the problem SC's finest is having answering this for you. All I can say is don't give up Lady.

A: What a run-around! This is disgraceful. These agencies should be able to give a thumbs up or down on a straight forward question. Instead kick the can down the road.Cyndi, where are you going to carry? Trunk? One answer. If in cabin another answer. Does not SC law demand firearm be in 'closed compartment that is part of the cabin? Glove box, console? No open carry outside your real property in SC? Short Ans: Does your Sheriff have any back bone? Ask b/c he/she should have no problem calling it Fair or Foul and putting that in writing. You get pulled over, pull out your signed letter, dated by your Sheriff on his letter head. That is assuming you can carry. He should inform his cops what the standard of law enforcement is.

A: here in NC the shockwave would NOT be covered by a Concealed Handgun permit you could carry it open but do not cover or hide it. I find it normal that the different law enforcement agencies don't know gun laws even in the pro gun states the laws are complex and hard to understand

A: Jeff, Almost same firearm. Mossberg customer service better then Chiappa. Different features like all synthetic furniture and spring assist pump on Honcho. Wood corn cob pump handle and birds head grip on Shockwave. For the price vs value I would buy the Shockwave if I wanted this type of firearm.

A: much better gun and company then the Chiappa get the Mossberg and know that the company will support and have parts available if/when you need them

A: The quality, accessories, support of the Mossberg Brand make the Mossberg the better choice.

A: Jeff - Let's think a minute ... Mossberg after market accessories are available everywhere. Mossberg has a customer service office in Texas. Mossberg shotguns enjoy a great reputation, and are used by many law enforcement agencies due to their reliability and durability. Daly .. ? ...?... ? ... I'm just thinking it might well be worth while for you to join Team Buds and get the Mossberg ... there are other benefits to Team Buds membership as well. This Daly might be the best thing since sliced bread ... or it might turn out to be a purchase you will regret for a long time. I'd go with the Home Team - Mossberg - it only costs a bit more to go first class.

A: These are all just my opinions, but - having fired Shockwaves and full size guns with birdshead grips like this they are basically range toys that are very difficult/impossible to aim and don't have much real utility. A shotgun with an actual stock is easier to aim, control, and absorb recoil. Additionally there are also reduced-recoil loadings of 12 and 20 gauge buckshot that would be more pleasant to shoot. With 410 there is relatively little recoil because you are delivering relatively little energy to the target. A good article summing up everything I dislike about 410 "defensive" loads: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/03/17/shouldnt-use-410-shotshells-defense/

A: Mark, yes it would. You just need the right loads : https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/61553/rem+410b000hd+hd+410+uhd+410+ga+25%22+4+pellets+000+buck+shot

A: Mark, If this is what your wife wants so be it. The correct self defense ammunition is key. Check these out----------https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/63675/federal+pd413jge000+personal+defense+5p-000+buckshot+3%22+410ga----------https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/714002076/fed+pd+410ga+25%22+000bk+20%2f200-----------https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/11082/winchester+410+ga+3%22+5+pellets+%23000+lead+buckshot Get out to let her shoot a box or two of whatever round you choose to get her as comfortable as possible holding, loading and racking the firearm. Just have her shoot from the hip would be my recommendation.

A: Yes it will be good with the right loads however the 12 ga using the Mini shells may be a better option the 12 ga mini shell reduce recoil way below a 20 ga and close to a .410 https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/713073270/aguila+ammo+mini-shell+12ga

A: Norman, unfortunately Crimson Trace currently offers 12ga and 20ga Laser Saddles. (https://www.crimsontrace.com/01-7810).

A: I couldn't find any saddles for this particular firearm. It was a pleasure to try to assist you.

A: Nothing man.

A: Ted, most standard 3 inch and 2.5 inch new .410 ammo works fine out of the Shockwave. Remington, Winchester, Fiocchi etc all work fine. For self defense : https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/70894/win++supreme+elite+pdx1+410+ga+3+(4)+defense+disc+(16)platted+#bb++10rd+box --------------- https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/713073246/brenneke+usa+410+ga45+lc+3+classic+slug+5rd+box

A: This will handle all sorts of ammo. Slugs, birdshot, 3 inch shells, 2.5 inch shells, pretty much whatever you throw at it it'll function with. Hope this helps.

A: Ted, what works best depends on what you are using it for. It will handle any 2 1/2" or 3" shells, whether they be birdshot, buckshot, or slugs. For home defense, I keep mine loaded with Hornady Critical Defense .410 Triple Defense, which is a slug and two 35 caliber roundballs. https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/84263/hornady+critical+defense+410+ga++fxt+slug+with+flex+tip+20rd+box ....For target shooting, I use whatever birdshot I can get my hands on, it's pretty scarce right now. Have a great day!